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Black diamond viper vs petzl quark.
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This model is cen t uiaa type 2 rated and is more than adequate for use as an improvised anchor during crevasse rescue or for belaying climbers on steep snow.
Simond piranha grivel x monster black diamond cobra grivel quantum tech petzl quark black diamond viper dmm rebel.
I have been using both now for the last three years these are my conclusions.
A very rough estimation of head weight in ascending order would be.
It you are drytooling or hitting rock with your picks i have found that black diamond picks wear just a little bit faster.
It s totally a matter of personal preference between the two get your hands on one of both get some swings in and see which feels better.
Of note is that the newest petzl ice climbing tools 2010 quark nomic and ergo have a removable weight located on the pick.
A lakeland climber on 24 feb 2011.
This is going to be a bit of a comparison between the petzl nomic and the fusion.
Enter the black diamond viper a high tech all terrain tool.
Coops 13 on 24 feb 2011.
Honestly it all comes down to the feel vipers are far more head heavy which makes them penetrate ice with less force but are a little less precise than the quarks.
Both offer long battery life illuminating lights hinges to aim your light and are reliable even in the most remote locations.
Both black diamond and petzl offer amazing products.
Dmm rebels or petzl quarks or bd vipers.
Available with either hammer or adze this fully modular unit is as functional and reliable as your longtime partner perhaps more so.
The major differences between the two brands is that black diamond offers more light modes including the useful red light mode.
For pure steep ice i prefer the nomic.
Overall the sum tec self arrested similarly to the black diamond venom while the grivel evolution or the petzl summit evo offered superior performance.
It swings less like a battle ax fusion being the battle ax and the pick sticks more securely but yet is easy to remove.
Petzl provides the nomic with their 3mm ice pick and black diamond provides the fusion with their 4mm fusion drytooling oriented pick.
